LaRouche on
`Telemax' TV: Crash
Was Already Under
Way
Lyndon LaRouche was interviewed on Oct. 2, 2001 by Sergio
Romano, the host of the "Editor's Desk" news show on Telemax
TV and radio, in Hermosillo, Sonora, Mexico. The show is seen
and heard throughout the northwest of Mexico, and into parts of
the U.S. Southwest.
Telemax: Greetings, Mr. LaRouche.
LaRouche: Thank you.
Telemax: Mr. LaRouche, about 20 years ago, you forecast an
economic crisis, of the sort we're experiencing today. How did
you know that this was going to happen, and what are the
measures that can be taken to solve this crisis?
LaRouche: Well, this was foreseeable, if you looked at the
axiomatic features, which are like the axioms of a geometry: The
changes that were made between the middle of the 1960s and the
August 1971 decision of Richard Nixon. And, then you had¥the
end of the 1970s¥Administration, which were a greater disaster
for the United States, than even the Nixon Administration. And
those mistakes were never corrected. Therefore, the crash was
inevitable. There could have been certain things done to prevent it¥
Telemax: Forgive me for interrupting you, Mr. LaRouche, but, are
you saying that the end of the Bretton Woods system and the
decision to establish floating exchange rates, that these were part
of the problem?
LaRouche: This was the key to it.
Telemax: So, in other words, this was inevitable, because we
shifted from a world of production to a world of speculation. Is
that the case?
LaRouche: That's essentially it.
Telemax: So, in other words, we're giving benefits to those who
speculate and not those who produce. What can be done to
change and correct the situation?
LaRouche: Well, now, we're in what is, for many people, an
impossible situation. We have, actually, the worst financial crisis
and monetary crisis in world history; it is now unfolding. There are
solutions, but there are no simple solutions.
What we have to do, is, essentially, put the world into bankruptcy
reorganization. Of course, you're dealing with national economies,
not individual, major firms, so, therefore, it's different politically
than another kind of bankruptcy. And, therefore, what we have
now, is not just a financial crisis; we now have a world political
crisis, not because the world is unwilling to face the crisis, but
because the present political institutions are unwilling to face the
reality of what has to be done.
Naturally, since I knew this was happening, I've had, for years,
I've had exact statements of policy on what has to be done¥which,
as you may know, I was not thanked. The question is now: Is the
world going to face reality, and be willing to take the kinds of
measures which I've indicated ought to be done? Otherwise, we're
looking at something like the fall of the Roman Empire.
Telemax: Regarding the attack on Washington and New York on
Sept. 11, how does this affect the situation? Does this change it?
What does it do? Or does it simply precipitate what was coming
anyway?
LaRouche: No. It doesn't really affect the economy that much,
because the catastrophe is already that great. What this is, is,
actually, a coup d'état inside the United States. And, the question
is: Is the United States going to be able to resist this coup d'état,
which, if it does, that means we're back to the question of dealing
with the financial crisis, not this war-like situation. But the
economic crisis has nothing to do with this particular attack on
New York and Washington.
Telemax: You're using the phrase, "a coup d'état inside the United
States." Are you saying that there's an internal factor involved in
this, different from the Arab groups that have been noted in the
press?
LaRouche: The Arabs, as groups, had really nothing to do with
this, except some members may have been involved. You have a
lot of attempts to try to distract attention from the fact, but, the fact
is: The heart of the problem lies chiefly inside the United States. It's
simply impossible to do what was done, except by a very
high-level operation from inside the United States.
And, obviously, this has to do with two things. It has to do with the
reaction to the world financial crisis. Remember, the coup that put
Hitler in power in Germany, came in such a crisis. This has some
of the same characteristics as that. And, at the same time, this is
tied to the Middle East crisis.
For example: Right now, this weekend, there's the threat of
an attack on the famous mosque on the top of the mountain
in Jerusalem, the place which is called in Arabic, "al-Haram
al-Sharif," which is the second or third holiest place in
Islam. You have Protestant forces, in the United States, who
believe in having the Battle of Armageddon now. They're
crazy, but, unfortunately, they're numerous. They're
planning, this weekend, if possible¥to¥Sharon did in the first
attack on the mountain, some months ago.
What's dangerous, is, if this were to go forward, this would ignite
an international religious war, which some people in the United
States want: They call it, a "Clash of Civilizations."
So, that's the problem.
Telemax: Would you link what happened in New York and
Washington, D.C., in any way, to what happened in Oklahoma
City at the Federal Building?
LaRouche: Well, I would say that, anyone who thinks, in the
United States, with regret¥were ever charged without a thorough
investigation in the Oklahoma case. The fact that this was never
adequately investigated, but that they simply took the nearest
person to charge, and took him out and hung him, so to speak,
closed the door on investigations which should have been made.
But, undoubtedly, the way this was handled¥Oklahoma bombing
case, from an investigation standpoint¥raise questions, because
there are people inside the United States who might be used for
the kind of thing that happened. From a standpoint of political
motivation, these types of people that were involved behind the
Oklahoma bombing, are precisely the kinds of people who would
be useful, shall we say, for this kind of attack.
Telemax: Mr. LaRouche, you spoke recently at the Russian Duma.
You've also undoubtedly seen the statements of President Vladimir
Putin before the German Bundestag, and you've discussed the
issue of a realignment politically, of Europe toward Eurasia. Is that
the direction that you see things moving?
LaRouche: I see the direction they should move in. If we're going
to get out of an economic crisis, we have to revive world trade,
and the major market for that, essentially, lies in Asia: China, India,
so forth. Now, therefore, we have to create the mechanisms of
cooperation for long-term trade. If we do that, we could, quite
successfully, revive the world economy.
There exist plans, which I've been involved in devising, which are
now accepted in various parts of that part of the world, including a
project called the "Eurasian Land-Bridge" project, which would
involve all of continental Eurasia, or nearly all of it, from the
Atlantic to the Pacific. It also involves putting a railroad tunnel into
Alaska from Siberia, and the plan is to continue that road all the
way down to Tierra del Fuego. There are also plans in Egypt, to
extend the same system into Africa. This project could result in the
greatest economic revival the planet has ever known.
My view is that, if we could get such a plan into motion, with the
cooperation of the United States, that we can solve all the major
problems which now confront us. We need a project to put the
world back together.
Telemax: Mr. LaRouche, you're running for President in the year
2004. How's your campaign going? What are your activities? And
what alternatives are you presenting to the U.S. population for the
year 2004?
LaRouche: Essentially this one: first of all, to get the cooperation
with the Land-Bridge. To launch a large-scale credit operation
inside the United States, for the expansion of production based on
the new markets. And also, to eliminate many of the changes in
policy which were made by Nixon, Carter, and so forth, and go
back to the things that worked before.
Which would mean that U.S. relations with Mexico, for example,
would go back to what they were, say, in the late 1970s, at which
time there were many plans for cooperation between the United
States and other countries. If we get back to the spirit of those
discussions, I think we'll be in good shape.
Telemax: Mr. LaRouche, thank you so much, for taking my call.
It's been a pleasure interviewing you, and I wish you the best of
success in your activities.
LaRouche: Thank you, very much.